Rufei
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« Reply #120 on: December 16, 2008, 06:13:51 PM » |
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Oh you silly people with your silly psionics.  While looking through various materials for classes Ira can adapt, I noticed that the Historian was actually pretty awesome. Unfortunately, it seems to have a lawful requirement that seems to betray some of its flavor - there are a lot of abilities that key off of wholly reckless behavior. Perhaps non-chaotic would have been a better requirement? If that does happen, I would probably screw looking for PrCs and just take Historian after the 9 levels of Fighter I'll need to take. |
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« Reply #121 on: December 17, 2008, 12:14:57 AM » |
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Oh you silly people with your silly psionics. While looking through various materials for classes Ira can adapt, I noticed that the Historian was actually pretty awesome. Unfortunately, it seems to have a lawful requirement that seems to betray some of its flavor - there are a lot of abilities that key off of wholly reckless behavior. Perhaps non-chaotic would have been a better requirement? If that does happen, I would probably screw looking for PrCs and just take Historian after the 9 levels of Fighter I'll need to take. 9 levels of Fighter? There is something very wrong with that...  Also, if you have a problem with Psionics, you may want to not pay too much attention to Canere's next 6 levels, or any of the ones after his level of Sublime Chord... Also, if you want some advice on Historian, I would be glad to share my first hand experience. First thing, don't bother tripping vanilla orcs... |
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Currently playing: Forte Lulz, Chaotic EVIL Bard bent on world domination; Canere Potentia, to sing of power.Aralaxax, Warforged Osteomancer, Machines are my people, I wield bones as other wield swords.Randall Gray, she's not sexually confused, honest!Zion "I can make followers, but why bother when people line up for me?"Currently DMing: Real Men Use Their Hands, World's Largest Dungeon "If you can pretend to be a half-orc barbarian or a dwarf wizard then you can pretend to be an alpha male."-Ninjarabbit "The hotel shop only had two decent books, and I'd written both of them."-Douglas Adams " It's funny how the Earth never opens up and swallows you when you want it to." Xander Harris, Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
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Rufei
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« Reply #122 on: December 17, 2008, 05:38:54 AM » |
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Odd level Fighter?! Madness I say! (Zhentarim Soldier Fighter variant, mind you. Intimidate-demoralize as a swift action is sexy.)
Ira shall pretend Canere simply does not exist. Or at least has no mind powers.
As for the Historian... duly noted.
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« Reply #123 on: December 17, 2008, 09:11:10 AM » |
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Yeah, Roy (Word's PC from my other campaign) has a complete inability to trip anything. He succeeds easily on the touch attack, then fails miserably on the strength check, every single time. Note that a single hit from Roy will kill a plain orc every time out, with or without trip.
Now, I think the links to the Ritual Magic books aren't working properly. I'll have to fix the links tonight.
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« Reply #124 on: December 18, 2008, 12:31:57 PM » |
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Check your personal messages Prime32. |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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Prime32
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« Reply #125 on: December 18, 2008, 01:51:58 PM » |
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Check your personal messages Prime32. I have no problem with that (I see you're paying ). |
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My workDeviantArtCurrent gamesThe tier system in a nutshell: Tier 6: A cartographer. Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman. Tier 4: An expert marksman. Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left. Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy. Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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« Reply #126 on: December 18, 2008, 02:31:46 PM » |
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Check your personal messages Prime32. I have no problem with that (I see you're paying ). It will use your power points, though. |
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
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Prime32
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« Reply #127 on: December 18, 2008, 02:51:08 PM » |
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I'm playing a full manifester with a high Int score and cognisance crystals built into his body. No worries.
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My workDeviantArtCurrent gamesThe tier system in a nutshell: Tier 6: A cartographer. Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman. Tier 4: An expert marksman. Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left. Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy. Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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« Reply #128 on: December 23, 2008, 02:21:41 PM » |
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Prime, Phaedrus, not forgotten you guys, but given the current timing, I think I'll start the campaign after the holidays.
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« Reply #129 on: May 06, 2009, 04:35:30 PM » |
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I honestly didn't know where else to post.
I'd like to make my character be just the most dragon thing you can have, with a LA of zero and not too much cheese.
I figure that a Dragonwrought/Dragonborn Kobold would do the trick... is that legal in the rules?
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VennDygrem
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« Reply #130 on: May 06, 2009, 10:52:07 PM » |
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You could technically keep the Dragonwrought feat, since I believe you're still considered a member of your original race as well as a Dragonborn (bit fuzzy on this), but since your age gets reset to Adult (using the Dragonborn's aging pattern), you couldn't make use of Venerable kobold cheese. I know I really wouldn't allow it if I were running a game.
Unless you were just suggesting having a character who is a Dragonwrought Kobold, or one who is a Dragonborn Kobold, trying to see which one screams "Dragon!" more-so?
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« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2009, 11:07:02 PM » |
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You could technically keep the Dragonwrought feat, since I believe you're still considered a member of your original race as well as a Dragonborn (bit fuzzy on this), but since your age gets reset to Adult (using the Dragonborn's aging pattern), you couldn't make use of Venerable kobold cheese. I know I really wouldn't allow it if I were running a game.
Unless you were just suggesting having a character who is a Dragonwrought Kobold, or one who is a Dragonborn Kobold, trying to see which one screams "Dragon!" more-so?
I wish to do both dragonborn and dragonwrought. I don't want to do it for the cheese even though I don't think it would remove the wisdom, I wish to do it for how much raw dragon would be in the character, and how that would work asteticly... namely having the Dragon type, and a breathe weapon for a LA 0 character. |
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VennDygrem
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« Reply #132 on: May 06, 2009, 11:13:13 PM » |
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I suppose being a Dragonborn Dragonwrought Kobold Dragonfire Adept would be pretty much the most Dragontastic build you could get. And yes, technically the ability bonuses would remain, but if I were a DM I'd see little reason to allow a player to take a feat whose sole purpose is granting 9 free ability score points, because the act of making ones character a Dragonborn is sort of counter-intuitive to the point of making a Dragonwrought Kobold. I mean, props for optimization and all that, but the Dragonwrought feat is cheesy and we all know it. |
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« Reply #133 on: May 06, 2009, 11:35:55 PM » |
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Dragonborn makes your type Humanoid (Dragonblood) unless houseruled otherwise... Just FYI.  |
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« Reply #134 on: May 06, 2009, 11:43:05 PM » |
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Dragonborn makes your type Humanoid (Dragonblood) unless houseruled otherwise... Just FYI. But I'm considered a member of my origan race, and as a dragonwrought kobold, I was orginally a dragon... |
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« Reply #135 on: May 06, 2009, 11:47:28 PM » |
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Yeah, for all effects you are considered a dragon and a member of your original race (which was dragon, too). That's nice. That's actually exactly what the dragonblood subtype means. It still doesn't change that, by the rules, you're Humanoid (dragonblood) when you go dragonborn. Now, mind you, I'm not opposed to houseruling you keep your type, but I just wanted to point that out ahead of time. |
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« Reply #136 on: May 06, 2009, 11:49:30 PM » |
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True, and yes, for all spell effects, I count as dragon, what I'd prefer is that I didn't count as huminoid, there by making almost all spells that are called "<Blank> person"
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« Reply #137 on: May 06, 2009, 11:51:27 PM » |
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Just don't go dragonborn. It's subpar for your goals. Dragonwrought Kobold Dragonfire Adept is pretty badass, but if you really want dragonborn, let's hope Strat's cool with it. |
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Vinom
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« Reply #138 on: May 06, 2009, 11:52:49 PM » |
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I just read, yes the dragonbornhood will remove age benifits and penalties.
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VennDygrem
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« Reply #139 on: May 07, 2009, 12:27:07 AM » |
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Dragonwrought Kobold > Dragonborn Kobold anyway. Remember, being a Dragonborn Kobold, you'd look almost exactly the same as you did before, but more silvery, and have to be good. And remember, Evill will always win, because Good is dumb. |
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