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« Reply #220 on: October 10, 2010, 03:45:44 PM »

The Animal Companion list has Dire Eagle listed at available at 7th level, but my copy of Races of Stone says it's available at 4th level.  I cannot find any errata on Races of Stone, either.
Don't you need to be raptoran for that to apply?

No.  Here's the text, straight from my PDF.

"Dire Eagles as Animal Companions
A dire eagle may be selected as an animal
companion by a druid of 4th level
or higher. Treat the druid’s level
as three lower than normal
for the purpose of deter-
mining the companion’s
characteristics and spe-
cial abilities."
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« Reply #221 on: October 10, 2010, 03:50:34 PM »

The Animal Companion list has Dire Eagle listed at available at 7th level, but my copy of Races of Stone says it's available at 4th level.  I cannot find any errata on Races of Stone, either.
Don't you need to be raptoran for that to apply?

No.  Here's the text, straight from my PDF.

"Dire Eagles as Animal Companions
A dire eagle may be selected as an animal
companion by a druid of 4th level
or higher. Treat the druid’s level
as three lower than normal
for the purpose of deter-
mining the companion’s
characteristics and spe-
cial abilities."
I see what has happened here, move to page 189

"Dire Hawks as Animal Companions
A raptoran who has the animal companion class feature
can choose a dire hawk as an alternate animal companion
when his effective level for the animal companion class
feature is 4th or higher. The raptoran’s effective druid
level for determining the dire hawk’s abilities is reduced
by three."
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« Reply #222 on: October 10, 2010, 03:55:28 PM »

Dire Hawk in Races of the Wild is 7th level for non-raptorans, but Dire Eagles in Races of Stone are 4th level for everyone.
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« Reply #223 on: October 10, 2010, 03:56:38 PM »

Dire Hawk in Races of the Wild is 7th level for non-raptorans, but Dire Eagles in Races of Stone are 4th level for everyone.
Ooops, wrong Bird of Prey.
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« Reply #224 on: October 15, 2010, 05:23:44 PM »

Is there a compiled list of nonstandard summons for SNA I-IX? i.e. summons from books besides MMI like the storm elemental.
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« Reply #225 on: October 16, 2010, 05:14:16 AM »

here's what I have
Non-core SNA:
MM3 – storm elementals SNA3 – SNA8
MM5 – fetid fungus SNA2
FF – bloodthorn SNA4, dire rhino SNA7, fossergrim SNA5, kelp angler SNA7 (SLAs), kelpie SNA9, octopus tree SNA9, oread SNA6 (earth SLAs!), sporebat SNA8 (enervation), spriggan SNA4 (shatter), viper swarm SNA6, yellow musk creeper SNA4
Stormwrack – various aquatic creatures
PlH – elementite swarm
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« Reply #226 on: October 16, 2010, 08:45:39 AM »

Holy Orders of the Stars (Dragonlance book) has the Wild Fury of Schilev on pg. 58.
You need to be able to cast Greater Magic Fang and have Endurance and Toughness.
It has 10/10 Casting, 10/10 Wildshape (Full), no AC, and you get a TON of class features.

Class Features include:
5 bonus feats from a good list. Ex: Natural Spell, Multiattack, Improved Natural Attack, Improved Critical...
+20' Speed while Wildshaped.
Constant Greater Magic Fang.
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« Reply #227 on: October 16, 2010, 01:29:09 PM »

here's what I have
Non-core SNA:
MM3 – storm elementals SNA3 – SNA8
MM5 – fetid fungus SNA2
FF – bloodthorn SNA4, dire rhino SNA7, fossergrim SNA5, kelp angler SNA7 (SLAs), kelpie SNA9, octopus tree SNA9, oread SNA6 (earth SLAs!), sporebat SNA8 (enervation), spriggan SNA4 (shatter), viper swarm SNA6, yellow musk creeper SNA4
Stormwrack – various aquatic creatures
PlH – elementite swarm

For the ones in Fiend Folio where does it give the list? I don't see it in the monster entries.
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« Reply #228 on: October 16, 2010, 02:50:36 PM »

Well, look again. E.g., for bloodthorn, page 24, left column, line 4 and 5.
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« Reply #229 on: October 19, 2010, 02:02:54 PM »

Does anyone think that adding Spell Focus (Conjuration) and Augment Summoning as prerequisites for Greenbound Summoning might make it be a bit more balanced?
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« Reply #230 on: October 19, 2010, 02:35:42 PM »

Does anyone think that adding Spell Focus (Conjuration) and Augment Summoning as prerequisites for Greenbound Summoning might make it be a bit more balanced?
No.
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« Reply #231 on: October 19, 2010, 02:40:33 PM »

Does anyone think that adding Spell Focus (Conjuration) and Augment Summoning as prerequisites for Greenbound Summoning might make it be a bit more balanced?
No.

It was originally intended to be a +2 metamagic, which would make it much less of a no brainier pick.
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« Reply #232 on: October 19, 2010, 04:55:07 PM »

Does anyone think that adding Spell Focus (Conjuration) and Augment Summoning as prerequisites for Greenbound Summoning might make it be a bit more balanced?

"Prerequisite: a feat you were going to take anyway" is not much of a balancing factor.
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« Reply #233 on: October 19, 2010, 10:31:12 PM »

Does anyone think that adding Spell Focus (Conjuration) and Augment Summoning as prerequisites for Greenbound Summoning might make it be a bit more balanced?

"Prerequisite: a feat you were going to take anyway" is not much of a balancing factor.

Sure it is, it means you get that feat that many levels later. Its always seemed dishonest to me to bloat a good feat by requiring you to take mediocre and/unrelated feats as a balance mechanism. Thank god for Dodge variants!
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« Reply #234 on: October 25, 2010, 01:47:06 AM »

Hi All,

I'm brand new and this is my first post.  Thanks for having me.

I have a PVP match coming up on Nov 12th.  EL12 and I've drawn Druid.  But I've never played one before.

I've taken a look at the Handbook, but was confused by a coupple of things.  The Anthropomorphic Bat example given as a Druid Archer looks good, but I'm confused about items.  How can the Wildshape Briarvex form have the items it does without the Bat form having them too?  Wouldn't the items have to be Wild or have Wilding Clasps attached?  And how cold the Bat form hold a Monk's Belt, Bracers, Composite GreatBow?

Thanks in advance.  I'm loving these forums.

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« Reply #235 on: October 25, 2010, 02:14:13 AM »

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And how cold the Bat form hold a Monk's Belt, Bracers, Composite GreatBow?
I can't answer all of that, but you can definitely put a belt around a bat.
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« Reply #236 on: October 25, 2010, 07:41:05 AM »

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I can't answer all of that, but you can definitely put a belt around a bat.
anthropomorphic bats have arms, AND wings, not just wings that also have arms. You're like a normal human, except you have bat wings sprouting from your shoulders and a bat-head. Check the Anthropomorphic template in Savage Species.

Essentially, no change in body slots, at all. Want washboard abs and bat wings? You've got it!
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« Reply #237 on: October 25, 2010, 07:48:37 AM »

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And how cold the Bat form hold a Monk's Belt, Bracers, Composite GreatBow?
I can't answer all of that, but you can definitely put a belt around a bat.
anthropomorphic bats have arms, AND wings, not just wings that also have arms. You're like a normal human, except you have bat wings sprouting from your shoulders and a bat-head. Check the Anthropomorphic template in Savage Species.

Essentially, no change in body slots, at all. Want washboard abs and bat wings? You've got it!

Stupid comb-over and piercings optional.
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« Reply #238 on: October 25, 2010, 01:21:49 PM »

See: Manbat from Batman
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« Reply #239 on: October 26, 2010, 01:39:15 AM »

I don't have a copy of SS, or many 3E books.  But I can get a hold of one.  Thanks for the answer.  That makes sense.  I thought they were actual animals with human-like characteristics.

Thanks everyone.
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