Adjusting the Warmage Spell List

[X-Codes]

Well, I found Scourge of Force by browsing a database.

[Kethrian]

Well, I found Scourge of Force by browsing a database.

Aha.  You're forgiven then 

[Andion Isurand]

I made a few warmage revisions myself, one of which was to replace Advanced Learning with this...

Spells:

When a warmage gains access to a new level of spells for his class, he automatically knows all spells for that level listed on the warmage's spell list, as well as one evocation spell chosen from the wizard's spell list of that spell level or lower.
etc etc

That way the Warmage could gain that benefit even while taking a prestige class.

[SneeR]

I made a few warmage revisions myself, one of which was to replace Advanced Learning with this...

Spells:

When a warmage gains access to a new level of spells for his class, he automatically knows all spells for that level listed on the warmage's spell list, as well as one evocation spell chosen from the wizard's spell list of that spell level or lower.

That way the Warmage could gain that benefit even while taking a prestige class.

That would imply that not every warmage makes a beeline towards Rainbow Servant...

[Kethrian]

I made a few warmage revisions myself, one of which was to replace Advanced Learning with this...

Spells:

When a warmage gains access to a new level of spells for his class, he automatically knows all spells for that level listed on the warmage's spell list, as well as one evocation spell chosen from the wizard's spell list of that spell level or lower.
etc etc

That way the Warmage could gain that benefit even while taking a prestige class.

That's an interesting class ability, but it doesn't let my warmage get spells like Lightning Leap or Necrotic Skull Bomb.  By swapping spells on the list, you can gain a nice assortment of new spells that fit the theme of warmage, even if they aren't evocations.  You just have to be careful to keep the spell list appropriate to the class instead of just making a spontaneous version of the GOD wizard...

That would imply that not every warmage makes a beeline towards Rainbow Servant...

And they should, considering how nice the class is for them.  Even with full casting, it's nowhere near as OP as Incantatrix is for wizards...

[Littha]

I made a few warmage revisions myself, one of which was to replace Advanced Learning with this...

Spells:

When a warmage gains access to a new level of spells for his class, he automatically knows all spells for that level listed on the warmage's spell list, as well as one evocation spell chosen from the wizard's spell list of that spell level or lower.
etc etc

That way the Warmage could gain that benefit even while taking a prestige class.

That's an interesting class ability, but it doesn't let my warmage get spells like Lightning Leap or Necrotic Skull Bomb.  By swapping spells on the list, you can gain a nice assortment of new spells that fit the theme of warmage, even if they aren't evocations.  You just have to be careful to keep the spell list appropriate to the class instead of just making a spontaneous version of the GOD wizard...

That would imply that not every warmage makes a beeline towards Rainbow Servant...

And they should, considering how nice the class is for them.  Even with full casting, it's nowhere near as OP as Incantatrix is for wizards...

That would depend on whether you consider spontaneous access to the entire cleric spell list to be less powerful than some free metamagic.

[Kethrian]

That would depend on whether you consider spontaneous access to the entire cleric spell list to be less powerful than some free metamagic.

I would, considering how powerful metamagic gets when you basically remove the limiter of level adjustments.  But that's just my opinion.

[SneeR]

That would depend on whether you consider spontaneous access to the entire cleric spell list to be less powerful than some free metamagic.

I would, considering how powerful metamagic gets when you basically remove the limiter of level adjustments.  But that's just my opinion.

I can't say I agree... I'd have to say access to literally a thousand useful spells at any moment is a better deal than having one crazy, feat-heavy shtick.

[X-Codes]

That would depend on whether you consider spontaneous access to the entire cleric spell list to be less powerful than some free metamagic.

I would, considering how powerful metamagic gets when you basically remove the limiter of level adjustments.  But that's just my opinion.

I can't say I agree... I'd have to say access to literally a thousand useful spells at any moment is a better deal than having one crazy, feat-heavy shtick.

This is why I like Rainbow Servant as a 6/10 class.

[Kethrian]

Well, after more spell perusal, I've come to the conclusion that Vitriolic Sphere is a decent spell, if you use the Complete Arcane version.  The SC version would only be worth considering if it were a 3rd level spell.  Now I just gotta figure out which 5th level spell to replace...