tomasmans
Ring-Tailed Lemur
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« on: September 23, 2011, 04:20:40 AM » |
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books i can use:
ph1, ph2, Dm1, Dmg2, Cw, draconomicon, dragon magica and all dl books.., HoB, All races books, ToB
setting:
Dragon lance
1warrior/6swordsage/2 Bloodclaw Master/5master of nine/3 Bloodclaw Master/3 swordsage
feats:
Weapon Finesse, Two Weapon Fighting, Adaptive Style, Shadow Blade, dodge
Blindfight
Improved Initiative
Snap Kick
Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Superior Unarmed Strike
Greater Two Weapon Fighting
any advice?
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ImperatorK
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 04:53:17 AM » |
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What do you want?
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"I'm done thinking for today! It's caused me enough trouble!"
"Take less damage to avoid being killed."
"In the arena of logic, I fight unarmed."Or you could just be a cleric of an ideal. Like, physics and say that the domain choices reflect potential and kinetic energy.
Plus, where other clerics say "For Pelor," "For Nerull," or "For Crom?" You get to say, "FOR SCIENCE!" *fanfare* About me:I know your game, you just want a magical Amazon.com to knock off those good ol' honest magic shops run by polite, old wizards! Use Iron Heart Surge on the sun. That'll teach him to use fluff as RAW.
Damn you! You totally ruined my build that was all about getting epic far shot early and throwing my enemies into the sun!
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Ivory Knight
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 05:09:32 AM » |
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What does the NPC-class do in your build?
Maybe, you meant that to be Fighter 1, because I see no other way for you to get 5 feats(level 1, Human, flaw, flaw, fighter?) at first level?
Also, don't you need one actual Shadow Hand maneuvers, to take Shadow Blade?
At least 1 level of Swordsage(or Crusader, or Warblade), to take Adaptive Style?
What is this character supposed to do, besides making lots of unarmed attacks?
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tomasmans
Ring-Tailed Lemur
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2011, 05:13:13 AM » |
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y i want dps..
and maybe some ac.. cose dunno athers party members..
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« Last Edit: September 23, 2011, 05:16:46 AM by tomasmans »
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Endarire
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2011, 06:20:30 AM » |
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Do you play with x6 skill points at Swordsage1? Even if not, I advise Swordsage first.
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Hood - My first answer to all your build questions; past, present, and future. Speaking of which: Don't even need TO for this. Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu]. Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"
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Lycanthromancer
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011, 02:07:01 AM » |
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Maybe he meant the generic warrior PC class, from the DMG?
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BruceLeeroy
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2011, 03:09:10 AM » |
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Do you play with x6 skill points at Swordsage1? Even if not, I advise Swordsage first.
Does anyone? I mean...FFS, that's so obviously a typo. |
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Mixster
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011, 10:47:46 AM » |
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Why the warrior level?
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Monks are pretty much the best designed class ever.
JaronK
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Shiki
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2011, 10:54:07 AM » |
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Why the warrior level?
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tomasmans
Ring-Tailed Lemur
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2011, 12:09:53 PM » |
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Why the warrior level?
to get 1 extra feat i mean... fighter.. sry.. my bad english.. |
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Rejakor
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2011, 01:55:39 PM » |
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Get an english spell checker for your browser. Also Capitalize The First Word In Every Sentence, and end every sentence with a period(.). Currently your english is so bad that it takes serious effort to understand what you mean, and few people on an online forum are going to bother.
As for your swordsage, it fairly competently is a dex based unarmed swordsage. It doesn't qualify for a few feats, but most GMs don't care. It's not particularly high-op, but as long as you choose the right maneuvers, it will work fine. Is that what you want, or were you looking for something more powerful/more interesting?
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tomasmans
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2011, 06:17:35 AM » |
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Get an english spell checker for your browser. Also Capitalize The First Word In Every Sentence, and end every sentence with a period(.). Currently your english is so bad that it takes serious effort to understand what you mean, and few people on an online forum are going to bother.
As for your swordsage, it fairly competently is a dex based unarmed swordsage. It doesn't qualify for a few feats, but most GMs don't care. It's not particularly high-op, but as long as you choose the right maneuvers, it will work fine. Is that what you want, or were you looking for something more powerful/more interesting?
Sorry again and thx for the advices on English. For my swordsage I was asking myself if there is a nice race or any nice class/feat I missed... For the race I don't think so cose human = 1 more feat... and I need a lot of them.. The idea of my build was to make something like Kenshiro ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenshiro) |
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Mixster
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2011, 05:10:40 PM » |
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The fighter level would probably still be better as a Feat Rogue or Martial Monk level.
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Monks are pretty much the best designed class ever.
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Merkwerdigeliebe
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2011, 05:55:21 PM » |
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Swordsage 1/Cleric (time and darkness domains) 1/Cobra Strike Monk 1/Swordsage 4/Bloodclaw Master 2/Mo9 5/Swordsage 6 would be better in my opinion.
Those last 3 levels of Bloodclaw master don't really offer a lot. If you're going to dip into a non-initiator level class (end up with an IL of 19 either way), it's best to take two levels. You could replace the cleric/monk levels with feat rogue/psychic warrior if you wanted.
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tomasmans
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 05:41:51 AM » |
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Swordsage 1/Cleric (time and darkness domains) 1/Cobra Strike Monk 1/Swordsage 4/Bloodclaw Master 2/Mo9 5/Swordsage 6 would be better in my opinion.
Those last 3 levels of Bloodclaw master don't really offer a lot. If you're going to dip into a non-initiator level class (end up with an IL of 19 either way), it's best to take two levels. You could replace the cleric/monk levels with feat rogue/psychic warrior if you wanted.
thx dude this is a really nice advice.. and now I got 2 free slot for 2 more feats... what could I get? |
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Merkwerdigeliebe
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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2011, 02:55:30 PM » |
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Really, it depends on what you want to do or focus on. You could drop the flaws, you could try to optimize with certain disciplines or some sort of other combo. For example: If you wanted to focus on shadowhand maneuvers, gloom razor+craven might be something to consider. If you wanted to focus on tiger claw: find some things to optimize jump, like Leap from the Heavens, battle jump, leap attack, etc. For diamond mind: steady concentration might be something to grab. Alternatively, you could pick up some of the mageslayer feats or AoO combos. You could also consider dropping greater two-weapon fighting, you'll mostly be using strikes (swordsages get plenty), and that 2nd iterative probably won't hit that much anyway. This might be a valuable resource for you: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127026 |
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tomasmans
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2011, 01:54:40 PM » |
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what about getting Law Devotion?
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Rejakor
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2011, 08:50:50 AM » |
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Hit And Run Fighter, from Drow of the Underdark, gives dex to damage whenever you would sneak attack. It loses heavy armour and tower shield proficiency.
If Dodge and Blindfight aren't pre-reqs for something, drop'em. Improved Init is less horrible, but still not good.
You need pounce, if you're planning to play below the level where you get Shadow Blink. If you're playing at the level you get Shadow Blink, screw this master of the nine business and go Teflammar Shadowlord. Shadow Jaunt + Shadow Stride + White Raven Tactics (Adaptive Style + Shadow Blink) = three teleports and three full attacks every turn.
If you want to be hitting pressure points and things, you probably want some kind of Stunning Fist that's actually worthwhile. Don't know where you'd get that. Look into extra damage, because at the moment you do unarmed strike damage + dex + str + 2d6 (if you're flanking, and in Assassin's Stance). That's not much damage.
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