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« on: September 06, 2011, 09:32:38 PM »

As you could probably guess by the title I am making succubus for a play by post and I need feats. The character is going to be a sort of skillmonkey/archer/party face and I am completely at a loss as to what to take...

I wanted trapfinding but can't get catalogues of enlightenment or open chakra so that is out and other than that i have no idea what would work well for a character like this. I am monumentally bad at choosing feats (it takes me days upon days) and dont really play skill based characters so I thought I would ask for some help.

I have 4 feats (level 1, level 3 and 2 flaws).

Please help  Big Eyes
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 02:41:42 AM »

What's her alignment?  Depending on that, certain feats won't be available.

Skillmonkey builds get a nice boost from Jack of all Trades, specifically allowing them to Take 10 on anything.  As a skillmonkey I assume you have at least Int 13, yes?

Archer builds can take several feats to get going.  Point Blank Shot and Rapid Shot come to mind for using a bow. If using a crossbow, Rapid Reload will get you iterative attacks once you have +6/+1 BAB or if you use Rapid Shot with it.

Party face should be your easiest role as a Succubus, but that can be handled through skills most of the time.  Make sure to max Diplomacy ranks for instance.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 03:32:04 AM »

Are you evil? If so, consider devoting yourself to an Elder Evil for more feats.

Since you get Telepathy @ECL2, I'd get Mindsight @3HD. If you want to sneak around, Darkstalker is necessary. You may also want to invest into a Ring of the Darkhidden, I guess.

Is there not some badass forms you can use w/ Alternate Form? Maybe check into those for a fighting form and get feats that fits w/ its style? Not sure about archery here, but aw wellz.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 04:12:51 AM »

Alignment is Chaotic Neutral, has the Chaotic and Evil subtypes.

Str 15
Dex 18
Con 18
Int 19
Wis 14
Cha 26


Is there not some badass forms you can use w/ Alternate Form? Maybe check into those for a fighting form and get feats that fits w/ its style? Not sure about archery here, but aw wellz.

Unfortunately in 3.5 succubi have Change Shape instead (The DM insisted on modifying the class to fit the current succubus rather than the 3.0 one.) which is good for disguises but not much else.

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 08:07:48 AM »

Ask about Charming the Arrow as a possible feat.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 08:31:07 AM »

I actually did but the DM said no to ignoring the fey requirement...
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 08:51:23 AM »

Unseelie fey template? Tongue

How is multiclassing handled? Do you have to complete the class before you go on to another? Because a cleric dip could really help.
Human Heritage would let you benefit from spells like enlarge person to improve your grappling, as well as qualify for an SP ghost dip if it's allowed (the online progressions explicitly do not need to be finished).
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 09:55:51 AM »

Unfortunately as the ss progressions need to be finished before you can do anything else I am stuck with it for another 7 levels. Wouldn't human heritage make me lose all my weapon proficiencies...

Not sure I want to grapple, sure succubi have the whole drain thing but they also have the BAB of a wizard and relatively low Str
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2011, 09:59:06 AM »

Human heritage causes you to retain your old traits (which is fantastic on undead), so you'll keep your proficiencies.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2011, 11:46:57 AM »

Grappling seems largely unnecessary IMO. You should be able to Charm or Suggest your way into a chain of Energy Drain-Suggestion.

Focusing on SLA strengths
Ability Focus, Sudden Ability Focus, Boost SLA
Supernatural Transformation
Quicken SLA
Life Drain
Improved Energy Drain, Spell Drain


As for Archery

Flyby Attack seems like a logical choice
Though, the old school use of Manyshot with it may be too harsh on your attack bonus.

Etc
A level of Fiend of Blasphemy will net you 2 cleric domains later in your career, qualified for pretty easily by taking leadership
Potentially continuing with it for spells may or may not be cause for switching up archery to Wis based/Zen Archery
There are of course some options for optimizing on your charisma in the X to Y thread, depending on what you want to do
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=215.0
Use Leadership & Spell Drain to sap spellcaster cohort for what specific spells you'd like personally?

Kind of rough, I'm at a loss after looking around.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 01:20:24 PM »

Use Magic Device can solve all of your problems.  Smirk Stick some ranks in it, and maybe take a feat to make it a class skill.

See if your DM will let your LA count towards calculating initiator level, and take Martial Stance to get Assassin's Stance. (Qualify with an item)
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2011, 07:38:31 PM »

yep UMD


3rhd + 3la = not very good skill monkey any more. Same for frontliner or spellcaster.
The number of classes that fix this sort of problem, is a very short list.
Luckily the diplo role can be done with level 1 spells/powers,
heck even Divine Mind 1 can do it.

Phrenic Template also works, but perhaps later game than this.

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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2011, 12:09:07 AM »

Only at 3+2 so far and succubi have a racial bonus to Int and 8 points/hd so its not too bad... still not great but I am hoping the higher ability mods will make up for the 2 less ranks in my skills.

Thanks for all the suggestions, (and by all means keep them coming) has given me a lot to think about.
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