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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2011, 08:08:20 PM »

Faerie Mysteries initiate is ridicolously good for an undead. You can easily get up to something like D12+12 Hp per HD.
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2011, 11:23:53 PM »

I doubt the body will be that smart, the head might.

Actually head: Wizard/Psion.

Body: Warblade/Factotum.

Would be funny.


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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2011, 11:57:40 PM »

I doubt the body will be that smart, the head might.

Actually head: Wizard/Psion.

Body: Warblade/Factotum.

Would be funny.




Warblade body(assume head has higher initiative to start): Head goes, Body goes, Body uses white raven tactics on head, head goes again.  Next round, body delays, head goes, then body goes and WRT Smile.... watch the players boggle as this skeletal figure spouts 2 spells a round.

Factotum body.  Not as broken... but what level does factotum get extra move actions?
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2011, 08:21:17 AM »

I thought factotum gets extra standard actions at level 8.

Actually, Would the head buffing the body with spells work well until the body dies?
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2011, 08:30:07 AM »

I thought factotum gets extra standard actions at level 8.

Actually, Would the head buffing the body with spells work well until the body dies?
Why not just persist spells before the fight?
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« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2011, 09:03:57 AM »

Faerie Mysteries initiate is ridicolously good for an undead. You can easily get up to something like D12+12 Hp per HD.
That's actually pretty funny! (considering what it would have to do to get the benefits of that feat)

From Dragon 319:

"You and a partner with the Faerie Mysteries Inititate feat practice a 15-minute regimen of cultural rituals that grant you special bonuses on skill checks or combat rolls.  You choose which bonus you'd prefer before conducting the exercise, modifying your regimen slightly to achieve the desired effect."

"Passions: You and your partner engage in an exuberant sensual act.  The ritual leaves both partners invigorated, allowing you to use your Intelligence modifier instead of your Constitution modifier to determine bonus hit points."


Tantric Skeletons!   Laugh
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2011, 04:26:16 PM »

well at least your partner will qualify for lichloved....
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« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2011, 06:13:21 PM »

Wow, I can't believe how many people missed the Voltron joke.

On Topic: This, is a killer idea. Slap some templates onto the body (or hell, the demi-lich if you want) and go to town. Like most everyone else said, you're free to take pretty much any undead.
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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2011, 06:40:20 PM »

Tantric Skeletons!   Laugh
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2011, 07:43:30 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2011, 10:47:53 PM »

Don't you get a miss chance for being blind?
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« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2011, 11:50:52 AM »

Don't you get a miss chance for being blind?

Why would they be blind?  I don't think "head" is a requirement for a D&D creatures to see...especially undead ones which doesn't have specific organs to begin with (No critical hit/precision based attacks) anyways.

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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2011, 01:26:11 PM »

undead have darkvision 60 by default.

skeletons dont have eyes by default. eye sockets are not normally useful for sight strictly by themselves.
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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2011, 03:39:24 PM »

Call me silly, but I think the smoldering pin-points of red light are there for a reason.  I think it would be reasonable to require the skull to see with.  It should be up to the individual DM.  (I would use chopping off a skeleton's head as part of the flavor text for destroying a skeleton)
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« Reply #34 on: May 10, 2011, 03:44:20 PM »

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Call me silly, but I think the smoldering pin-points of red light are there for a reason.  I think it would be reasonable to require the skull to see with.  It should be up to the individual DM.  (I would use chopping off a skeleton's head as part of the flavor text for destroying a skeleton)
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As far as RAW is concerned even if you use a vorpal weapon to remove a skeleton's head it suffers no penalties.

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Others, such as golems and undead creatures other than vampires, are not affected by the loss of their heads.
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« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2011, 05:27:24 PM »

Call me silly, but I think the smoldering pin-points of red light are there for a reason.  I think it would be reasonable to require the skull to see with.  It should be up to the individual DM.  (I would use chopping off a skeleton's head as part of the flavor text for destroying a skeleton)
Sounds like a bone of contention to me.
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« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2011, 05:53:18 PM »

I thought of soemthing guys. Play a undead with a Demilich on his head and just flavor it differently.

Done.

I was dumb.
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