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« on: March 17, 2011, 06:59:54 PM »

So, I'm in a level 33 gestalt game and everyone else has +80 to their saves, my best save is +30, any ideas how I can save my stupid saves.  Big Eyes http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=281456
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 07:07:27 PM »

You appear to only have the base save bonuses of a 20th level druid.  What about your other 13 levels worth of saves?

Also, you need a way to get other ability scores added on, such as CHA like a paladin or hexblade.

But 5 levels of Warshaper?  Yuck.  Two levels?  Sure.  Three levels?  I can live with that.  All 5?  No thanks.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 07:16:10 PM »

The 5 levels were for Multimorph, if you have another suggestion I'll take is though my dm brought the banhammer down on planar shepherd or I'd have taken it, also I added the +5 in misc fom epic levels, do I just put it in the base column?
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 07:33:14 PM »

A couple levels of Nature's Warrior or a single level of Fist of the Forest are good choices, or a level or two of Master of Many Forms.  Heck, a single level of Monk will benefit you more than Multimorph.  Or two levels of Unarmed Swordsage. Wink

As for the saves, casting Superior Resistance will give you a +6 resistance bonus to saves for 24 hours.  Actually, there is a thread around here someplace about all of the little items, feats, etc. that give boosts to saves.  I'll see if I can dig it up and link it.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 07:55:13 PM »

Is there a way to take paladin without taking evil or good? I basically just need to keep a neutral component of my alignment to keep druid working.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2011, 06:36:23 PM »

There might be some neutral paladin hidden somewhere, but not that I'm aware of.

3 levels of Hexblade (which can be Neutral) will get you CHA to saves vs. spells and Mettle.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2011, 07:08:18 PM »

Blackguard is any Evil, so NE works. Their Dark Blessing gives Cha to saves like Divine Grace.
According to Crystal Keep, Dragon 310 has the following variants: Sentinel (NG), Incarnate (True Neutral), Enforcer (NE), Anarch (CN). Dragon 312 also has Corrupter (NE), and I could have sworn I saw a LN variant there as well.
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2011, 07:20:18 PM »

Yeah, I figured Dragon might have some variants.  They tend to have an ACF for just about anything you can think of it seems.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2011, 09:19:15 PM »

Your best bet is to simply become immune to as much (read: everything) as possible.

A quick way to get a head-start on this is to become a necropolitan lernean lumi with a casting of haunt shift, a continual item of veil of undeath, one of ray deflection, and one of greater concealing amorpha. That alone will make you immune to nearly everything.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2011, 02:25:49 AM »

Necropolitan isn't kosher with Lumi out of the box.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2011, 05:24:24 AM »

How about custom magic items? An item that gives the benefits of Conviction (SpC) and Benediction (Comp.Champ.) should cost a trivial amount for a 33rd level character.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2011, 02:08:13 PM »

Necropolitan isn't kosher with Lumi out of the box.
By that level, all it takes is a quick Polymorph Any Object to become humanoid for a few days, become a necropolitan, then dismiss the PAO.

Voila.

Note that Veil of Undeath isn't for turn undead, but rather for rebuking.
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2011, 04:36:15 PM »

Necropolitan isn't kosher with Lumi out of the box.
By that level, all it takes is a quick Polymorph Any Object to become humanoid for a few days, become a necropolitan, then dismiss the PAO.

Voila.

Viola!  You're back to normal, except a level lower, since PaO returned you to your original form.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2011, 04:40:34 PM »

Necropolitan isn't kosher with Lumi out of the box.
By that level, all it takes is a quick Polymorph Any Object to become humanoid for a few days, become a necropolitan, then dismiss the PAO.

Voila.

Viola!  You're back to normal, except a level lower, since PaO returned you to your original form.
I'm pretty sure becoming undead after dying isn't prevented by Polymorph Any Object.

What happens if you become a wight?
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