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Rebel7284
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« on: February 02, 2011, 01:55:37 PM » |
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Hi all, So I have been re-reading the Spell Compendium and thinking about how awesome it would be to have a character that can cast ANY of the spells in that book. However, I am having some trouble thinking of non-cheesy ways to achieve that. So far I have: Mystic Ranger 8/Skypledged 1/Bard 1/Sublime Chord 2/Sacred Exorcist 1/Prestige Paladin 1/Sublime Chord 6 with Sword of the Arcane order. This gives: Cleric Spells to 3rd Level Druid Spells to 3rd Level Sorcerer/Wizard Spells to 9th Level (but spontaneous  ) All ranger/paladin/bard spells No blackguard/assassin spells Alternatively, a better way seems to be a Chameleon 10 build, but that leaves out the capstone abilities of all the tier 1 classes without really shady methods of giving Chameleon itself 9s.
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Hitoshura
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2011, 02:01:48 PM » |
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Be an Archivist, get arcane spells from somebody with Alternative Source Spell or Southern Magician 
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 02:24:31 PM » |
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Yeah, Archivist = all domains, cleric spells, druid spells, ranger spells, paladin spells, blackguard spells, bard spells (via divine bard), and wizard spells (via hexer). I don't think there's a single spell in the SPC that the Assassin can cast that some other class cannot with the exception of a few spells involving Death Attack.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 02:37:18 PM » |
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I'd prefer a Wizard with Uncanny Forethought and 10 levels in Rainbow Servant. Add Prestige Bard, Paladin and Ranger if you want those. Skypledged for Druid.
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Read, every day, something no one else is reading. Think, every day, something no one else is thinking. Do, every day, something no one else would be silly enough to do. It is bad for the mind to be always part of unanimity.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 02:40:19 PM » |
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Illuminan race for improved sigil krau for early entry of 2nd level spells Wizard 1, using martial wizard variant instead of scribe scroll or the dragon variant that allows you to treat all spells as if you have spell mastery in exchange of scribe scroll and your familar Archivist 2 which gives you back scribe scroll Mystic Theurge 4 Holt Warden 3 which gives you trackless step for Arcane Hierophant Arcane Hierophant 10
Cast as a 19th level Archivist and a 15th level Wizard Take these feats as well Ancestral Relic, make your relic your spellbook, sacrifice items, and you add the spell for free in your spellbook. True Believer or Sacrifice a 5th level Divine Slot. Now you can scribe all arcane spells for free.
Now to further amplify the cheese drop a mystic theurge level and take a level of hathran, use an acorn of far travel and now you can cast all your spells spontaneously. Take the improved cohort feat and now your cohort can cast spells almost as well as you.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 04:36:52 PM » |
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Heh , and ouch.
Here I was, just gonna say Erudite Spell To Power 7+ for most of it. And PsyRef-ing like mad, on a helper to get Divs over to Arcane, to get over ... Course this would be 1 spell level behind, the delicious cheeses above.
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Benly
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2011, 05:29:42 PM » |
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Mystic Ranger 8/Skypledged 1/Bard 1/Sublime Chord 2/Sacred Exorcist 1/Prestige Paladin 1/Sublime Chord 6 with Sword of the Arcane order.
Just a footnote: Skypledged doesn't help with this. It only grants spells "on the cleric or druid spell list in the Player's Handbook". SpC spells aren't on that list.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2011, 07:10:20 PM » |
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2011, 11:19:45 PM » |
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I am going to my stand by build I have mentioned in just about every spell access thread I have seen. It centers on the Eldrich Master from dragon magazine number #280. It gets:
Add its level to the effective level of all arcane spells. Level 3,6,9 Bonus Metamagic Feat Level 3,6,9 Gain the ability to cast a spell one level higher than you can normally cast in one class Level 4, 8 add another classes spell list to your own Level 10 Know when anyone says you name. Lots of bonus spells known.
While this does not get everything, I like:
Bard 2/Cleric 1/Bard 2/Eldrich Master 4/Dweomerkeeper 1/Sublime Chord 1/ Dweomerkeeper 9
Bard 4 will grant you second level spells, so eldrich master 4 will give you a third level spell slot. You will end up casting from Sublime chord spell slots with access to Bard, Sorceror, and Cleric spells. No you only get a certain number of spells known (boosted by Eldrich Master), but you can choose miracle later for spell emulation. Also Dweomerkeeper will give 4 supernatural spells a day for buffs or xp/gp free spells.
Feats Extend Spell Alternative Sourced Spell Persistent Spell Divine Metamagic Persistent Easy Metamagic Persistent Spell Focus Transmutation Ability Enhancer Practiced Spell caster Scribe Scroll (Rune Domain) Fell Energy Spell
Spell selection can easily boost your Cha to the 70’s.
If you want to be even crazier, you could go Bard 1/Cleric 1/ Marshal 1/Spell thief 1/ battle dancer 1. Take versatile spell caster and sanctum spell to get higher level spell slots.
Also quite crazy in Gestalt with Beguiler, Dreadnecro, or Warmage 20//Eldrich Master 10/Uncanny Trickster 3 to end up with the base class, sorcerer, cleric, bard spell casting all spontaneous and all known.
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Hitoshura
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2011, 01:44:15 AM » |
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You know, you could just make an Hathran Archivist with Acorn of Far Travel, making every spell on your Spell List spontaneous, much cleaner...
Edit: Too bad, on PGtF it's just the spells you know...Still, something to ponder
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2011, 08:10:29 PM » |
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I heard Hathran + Chameleon works for all spells.
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Hood - My first answer to all your build questions; past, present, and future. Speaking of which: Don't even need TO for this. Any decent Hood build, especially one with Celerity, one-rounds [Azathoth, the most powerful greater deity from d20 Cthulu]. Does it bug anyone else that we've reached the point where characters who can obliterate a greater deity in one round are considered "decent?"
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2011, 08:14:33 PM » |
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Wizard X with Planar Touchstone (Catalogues of Enlightenment) can get pretty much anything you actually care about... (any spell in any domain anywhere). Add Uncanny Forethought, and you can even throw quite a few of them out spontaneously every day.
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A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?
Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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Rebel7284
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 12:35:08 AM » |
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Hmr, now that I think about it, Archivist 7/Sacred Exorcist 1/Prestige Paladin 4/Contemplative 1/XX 7 with sword of the arcane order gets most spells. Depends on with Divine Bards are allowed. Substitute domain + contemplative works for domain spells. Holt Warden also works, but the organizational fluff is more strict. This of course hinges of Prestige Paladin qualifying for SotAO, which is debatable.
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2011, 12:42:53 AM » |
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Hexer is a 3.0 PrC that adds individual Sor/Wiz spells to the Divine list. With retraining/rebuilding you can actually turn every single Sor/Wiz spell ever printed into a divine scroll and then scribe that into an Archivist's Prayerbook, and then lose the Hexer levels. Sword of the Arcane Order is unnecessary.
This, of course, assumes you do it yourself. If it's practical enough, then chances are some enterprising Archivist actually did it already, so all you need to do is go pick up the needed scrolls from him.
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DavidWL
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2011, 01:24:31 AM » |
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Playing with Eldritch Theurge + early qualification:
w/2 bloodline levels and Primary Contact feat to qualify for Eldritch Theurge 3 levels early Generic Spellcaster(Arcane) 1/Generic Spellcaster(Divine) 1/ Eldritch Theruge 2/Chameleon 9/Eldritch Theurge 3-9 Cast any 9th level spell + some cool perks
We could also do something similar with Ur-Priest: w/2 bloodline levels and Primary Contact feat to qualify for Eldritch Theurge 3 levels early Generic Spellcaster(Arcane) 1/Generic Spellcaster(Divine) 1/ Eldritch Theruge 2/Ur-Priest 2/Hathran 8/Eldritch Theurge 3-8 - This would also give a 10th and 11th level spell slot ...
Best, David
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Some Cool Quotes: Non-PC activities like out of combat healing should be left to wands and NPCs. It's not fun to play a walking wand of CLW. Likewise, being a combat wall is not a viable PC role. A Wall of Force could do that.
-Sort of, but you left out the important note that a Wall of Force does it better. The most powerful character is the one that you actually get to play. I often have to remind people not to underrate divination. The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not. DavidWL's Random Build Archive
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2011, 03:10:44 AM » |
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Wizard X with Planar Touchstone (Catalogues of Enlightenment) can get pretty much anything you actually care about... (any spell in any domain anywhere). Add Uncanny Forethought, and you can even throw quite a few of them out spontaneously every day.
Uh, you just get a single domain granted power. No spells.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2011, 03:28:28 AM » |
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Wizard X with Planar Touchstone (Catalogues of Enlightenment) can get pretty much anything you actually care about... (any spell in any domain anywhere). Add Uncanny Forethought, and you can even throw quite a few of them out spontaneously every day.
Uh, you just get a single domain granted power. No spells. Higher-order ability lets you cast the spells, too.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2011, 03:34:08 AM » |
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Yeah. Three spells from a single domain, one each per day, and it takes at least a day to recharge it even if you get lucky (succeeding on a DC 25 intelligence check isn't trivial).
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