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« on: January 01, 2011, 03:54:41 PM »

And actually making him move.

Alright, all I have so far is this:

CE Halfling Barbarian 1 (Halfling Rage and Unholy Fury variants)

Unholy Fury: 1/rage smite any non-CE. Uses Str as the stat that's added to your attack roll, iirc.
Halfling Rage: Normal Rage, and size-based penalties to special combat maneuvers are removed.

PB an 18-2 Str

Feats (2 Flaws):
Power Attack
Smiting Power (Can use the bonus to attack from your Smite as a bonus to bullrush/overrun attempts.)
Reckless Rage.

At level 1, this halfling has a +13 to Bullrush attempts while raging. This can easily be boosted; I'm thinking Sapphire Smite at 3rd (mainly for the bonus it grants to hit), and Awesome Smite for my 6th (to get through Cha*2 DR)

Yes, I know this is suboptimal, but it came from a thought experiment i which I tried to make a Reaping Mauler that doesn't suck.

Maybe Were-Badger, for the Strength Boost and Rage stacking? An ECL 5 Afflicted Werebadger would have something on the order of 30 Str easily, resulting in Bullrush attempts with a bonus of at least +23.
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Sounds fine to me.
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2011, 04:03:49 PM »

Reaping Mauler that doesn't suck.

Good luck, I've tried and come up mostly empty-handed.  I think something like Monk 1/X 4/War Mind 10/Reaping Mauler 5 with Tashalatora could be not completely useless, but it wouldn't be great.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2011, 04:11:20 PM »

a couple of levels of PsyWar for effective use of expansion is always a boon. Smile
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2011, 04:14:23 PM »

Use Dire Badger over normal Badger.  Better stat boosts and is Medium sized.
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2011, 04:33:17 PM »

Use Dire Badger over normal Badger.  Better stat boosts and is Medium sized.

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But yeah...whenever I see "bull rush" in a splat book my eyes sort of glaze over it and move on to the next thing.
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2011, 04:50:33 PM »

If you can find a way to count as large, knockback (Races of Stone 142) gives you a bonus equal to twice your power attack penalty. 
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2011, 05:11:14 PM »

Hmm, does that powerful build from that location in Sandstorm make me count as 1 size larger or as Large?

Because if the latter, Knockback here I come!

I'll also look into Dire Badger.
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Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2011, 06:28:15 PM »

I know a kobold build that could bull-rush him, while counting as Diminutive size. Big Grin
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2011, 08:51:36 PM »

play a halfling psion, mindswitch the tarrasque, proceed to charge the tarrasque with its own body? (shrugs)
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« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2011, 08:58:50 PM »

Tiny McBigLargeHuge isn't what I'm looking for, though it has a similar end result...
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Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".

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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2011, 09:32:03 PM »

Reaping Mauler that doesn't suck.

Good luck, I've tried and come up mostly empty-handed.  I think something like Monk 1/X 4/War Mind 10/Reaping Mauler 5 with Tashalatora could be not completely useless, but it wouldn't be great.
Yeah, in 99 out of 100 cases, anything with Reaping Mauler would be better off with anything else at all. Hell, five levels of Wizard would actually let you grapple better.

That said, I think your target number is a bull rush modifier of +57 (17 Strength+4 IBR+16 size+20 max roll). I'm assuming those gigantic front talons disqualify those limbs from being legs, although the tarrasque probably qualifies as 'exceptionally stable.'
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2011, 06:34:23 PM »

Use a ramhammer. It gives bonuses to bullrushes.
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